Vic Ashford was one of the South West Centre Officials. A man who helped to keep the wheels of our sport turning. A man who had dedicated himself not only to organisation and running of events for over fifty years, but who has represented the centre and his club as a works trials rider. He had a riding ability in his day that was equal to the top but he was also renowned for his organising of both trials and motocross. He arranged all the centre permits and was well known for his enthusiasm and good natured approach. He was of course that gentle Giant Vic Ashford. We also republish Vic’s obituary upon his death in 2012.

Words: Mike Naish & Dave Cole.

Photos: Dave Cole, Mike Naish, OffRoad Archive; Fred Browning, Mike Rapley. (Main photo Fred Browning)

Mike Naish: How did you become interested in Motorcycles Vic?

Vic Ashford: “I was born 1939 and raised on Wotton Farm near Denbury. We had sections on the farm that were used in the West of England National Trial, ‘Wotton Farm’ and ‘Cape Horn’ so I used to watch trials on the farm from an early age. My parents were not motorcyclists, but they had this mixed farm of one hundred and twenty acres and were content to let the trial come onto the farm land.”

MN: Take me through your early days and your first bikes.

VA: “I went to Denbury Primary School and then father thought it would be more use to me if instead of going to Grammar school in Newton Abbot I went to the Technical school in Torquaywhere I could learn about woodwork and metalwork as well as all the usual subjects.”

“When I was sixteen years old I bought a brand new James ‘Captain’ road bike from Freddie Hawkins. It cost £140 and Bill Martin who worked at the shop was assigned to help me learn to ride it. When I got to seventeen, I got a new James ‘Commando’ trials bike, again from Freddie Hawkins, it cost me £160. I joined the West of England Motor Club and rode about six trials on it, but did not particularly shine. I went to an Okehampton trial held on the firing range riding the bike there as we did in those days, but the bike broke down and Harold Ellis gave me a lift home in his van, which was the beginning of my association with him.”

MN: So did you move on to other competition bikes?

VA: “No not at first, I swapped the James in at John Green’s at Newton Abbot for a 500 AJS twin road bike. I was friends with Alan Dommett and we used to go and watch scrambles together on it. Because both our fathers were churchwardens, we sometimes had to leave the event before the end, so that we could be back in time for church, especially if the scramble was up in Somerset. Later I handed in the AJS and bought a Standard 10 van.”

“In 1959 when I was nineteen or twenty, I borrowed Alan’s 197 Greeves and rode in the Moretonhampstead Christmas trial and won the non-expert award and a week later I won the Pike Award for best novice in the Knill Trial, which upgraded me. I suppose this gave me the enthusiasm to ride again, so in June 1960 I brought a Greeves ‘Scottish’, it cost me £145. In 1961 I rode the Greeves in the Scott trial in Yorkshire with Bill Martin. It was a tough trial very hard going and I was pleased to get a finishers award. I started off and thought I would follow a couple of the works guys but I couldn’t keep up with them. I was going what I thought was quite quick across the moors when this little wiry guy came hurtling past me. When I got to the next section he was just going up it and I could see it was Dave Bickers.  Later on I heard this big four stroke behind me thumping away, then he passed me and it was Sammy Miller in top gear. That year Bill Martin got best newcomer on 150 marks lost on time and observation to Arthur Lampkin’s win on 56 marks lost.”

“I started to win regular awards on the Greeves and then I got works support from Francis Barnett.  Max King had talked to Hugh Denton of Francis Barnett and I was given a bike with the new AMC engine in it.

This replaced the Villiers unit mostly used at the time. Later when Francis Barnett reviewed their list of riders for the Scottish Six Day the support stopped but I was allowed to buy the bike for £60. The first trial I won on it was a Taunton trial in February 1962.”

“Following the end of Francis Barnett support, Max King had spoken to the BSA competition shop and they had agreed to give me works support. While it was being sorted, Max lent me his own 250 BSA registered as YOE 388, the one that is featured in the second edition of his book Trials Riding.”

MN: How did you get on with the four stroke after all the lightweights?

VA: “Quite honestly Mike, changing bikes never ever bothered me, I would have ridden a five barred gate if it had handlebars on it! I had to purchase the bike myself from Benny Crew who, if I remember rightly, was at Wareham in Dorset. It cost £252 and was registered as TTK 7. It went to the competition shop at Small Heath to be fettled for the SSDT in 1963. To run it in I rode in a Dartmouth trial the week before, but I rode to Dartmouth via Launceston to put some miles on it. We went to Scotland in my Morris Oxford van. There was my BSA and John Poate’s Royal Enfield in the back, and a trailer with Roger Wooldridge’s Cub and Brian Slee’s 250 BSA. Roger gave me £10 for the trip I remember. I just missed a special first class award loosing 123 marks. Arthur Lampkin won the trial on 7 marks lost. After the Scottish, the bike went back to be fettled in the comp shop with a load of new bits. From then onwards until my support finished they sent me the parts in the post and I got them fitted down at Freddie Hawkins.”

“I rode in most of the Nationals, John Douglas, The Hoad, St David’s, Victory, Bemrose and of course our local ones, the West of England and the Presidents.”

MN : What did you ride after your BSA Support finished?

VA: “It was in 1967 that I sold the BSA to a guy in Cornwall and bought Roger Wooldridge’s old 250 Bultaco. I think Roger changed back to a Cub or BSA at that time. I rode it in the Knill and was runner up. I liked the bike, it seemed that you could do almost anything with it. I rode it with quite a few successes until 1969.”

“The birth of my son, Jim was due, and my wife was in Torbay Hospital, but there was a West of England closed to club trial on in the morning, so I thought I would ride and then get down for the birth in the afternoon. Unfortunately I dabbed in fresh air, fell off and dislocated my collar bone. So I was in Newton Abbot casualty department whilst my wife was having the baby in Torbay. I went in later all strapped up obviously a bit sheepishly. I did not really ride in trials much after that although I did ride in a few pre65 trials for three or four years on a BSA. I have a Chinese trail bike which I use to mark out the ‘Moor to Sea’ trial. Before that I had a Serrow.”

MN: Can I ask you firstly how tall you are and also about your riding boots, because I have this abiding picture of you hunched over your bike and always riding in Wellingtons?

VA: “Well I was 6’2½” when I was younger; I’ve probably shrunk a bit now. With regards to the boots I started off riding in fireman’s boots but one day I got the footrest stuck between the sole and the instep of my foot. And of course they were always leaking so I just used a pair of Wellington boots. At least it kept my feet dry.”

MN: Today you are well known for your Organisational activities, when did you start?

VA: “I joined the West of England Club in 1956 but I was most disappointed not to be voted on the committee that year, I had to wait until 1958 when I was nineteen. I have been on the committee ever since, forty-eight years, organising and running trials and scrambles. I have been vice chairman a couple of times, but I never wanted to be the chairman. I became Centre Permit Secretary in the early 1990s when Brian Staddon died and his wife wished to give up the post. I said I would stand in for a while until they got someone, and I am still doing it.”

MN: I know you are heavily involved in the Moto-Cross scene, and yet you have never ridden.

VA: “Not quite true Mike. I have always, from my youth, been interested in scrambles. Wilf Ellis, who was the scrambles secretary for the club, and I, visited all the national events and many on the continent as well. One year I visited eight of the twelve world rounds all over Europe. As for riding in scrambles, yes I did once ride at a meeting run by the Chard club at Windwhistle. As it happened I had trouble with my bike so I was loaned a 350 BSA Gold Star by Jack Williams and rode my three heats. Sad to say I finished last in two of them but in the last heat I made a supreme effort and just overtook a rider to finish last but one. I realised I was not really cut out to be a speed merchant, so that was it.  Today I manage the land at Whiteway Barton on behalf of the farmer and the club so that we can run the correct number of allowable events each year. This involves getting the track graded and maintaining the facilities.”

MN: What have you done career-wise? I believe you have a Fruit and Veg stall at Newton Abbot Market, have you done it for long time?

VA: “I worked on the family farm until 1963 when I bought a small holding of four acres in Denbury. On the farm Dad used to give me £5 a week pocket money so when I got married I said I needed a rise up to £20. We kept a few pigs and chicken and produced vegetables which we sold. Later I rented a couple of acres from Anthony Rew’s father to increase the amount of produce but it was a long hard day. I started the stall at the market in 1967 selling produce from local suppliers so I have been there nigh on forty years. Nowadays I just go out to the wholesalers at 7am to buy the days supply. Also I recently took over the greetings card stall when the owner retired so now I run the two.”

MN: And the future?

VA: “I intend to carry on in the market until I am at least seventy and in the motorcycle world as long as I am able. It has been a big part of my life.”

MN: One final thing. Vic mentioned that he started off by watching the West of England Trial at Wotton Farm so he knew the make up of the sections well. To give a flavour for those who do not know the sections, now no longer used, here is reproduced the words from the ‘Motor Cycling’ magazine for November 2^nd 1961 reporting on the West of England Trial.

“Vicious opener for the eastern circuit was the Cape Horn-Wotton group, which involved dives into a hub-deep stream and up well-watered, slimy clay banks. Typical and consecutive performances were those of Arthur Lampkin (250 BSA), Gordon Blakeway (200 Triumph) and Jeff Smith (350 BSA). All used feet and throttle without hesitation, and on Wotton they kept going up the steep exit- where even some of the best men who tried other tactics were floundering before the end.”

“On Cape Horn, Smith became caught between the head –high banks and handed himself off- and was duly debited with a dab.  Immediately afterwards Brian Martin (250 BSA) footed where team-mate Jeff had lost his point; submerged rocks were the cause. Scott Ellis (200 Triumph) made a neat showing at Cape Horn as did V J Ashford (250 Greeves)”.

Winner that year was Johnny Giles (200 Triumph on 7 marks lost) best South Western Resident was Vic on a creditable 28 marks lost, beating such names as John Draper and Jim Sandiford amongst many others.

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Bibliography:

Motor Cycling, 2 November 1961.

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Victor (Vic) James Ashford

1939 – 2012

Obituary by Dave Cole in 2012:

It is with much sadness we report the death of Victor Ashford, the President of the West of England Motor Club who passed away on Monday 7^th May following an illness, which was borne quietly, and bravely for quite some time.

Vic was an immensely popular man who was well known to sporting motorcyclists all over the country, along with customers who knew him as a Newton Abbot market trader for a great many years. He had two big passions in life one was the West of England Motor Club, the other was his Whist Drive Club, Victor drove around the local villages on Dartmoor picking up many of his whist drive friends before returning them again after a good evening out-all in the aid of charity.

As a Woodland, near Denbury lad, Vic grew up with motorcycle events taking place on his family farm, as soon as he was sixteen he purchased his first bike and a year later his first competition bike, he went on to become one of the finest and most successful motorcycle trials riders from the west country during the 1960s.

On joining the West of England Motor Club in 1956, Vic was very disappointed not to be voted onto the club committee until 1958. He certainly made up for the lost couple of years as his services to his club and the South Western Centre of the A.C.U., are now legend and it is generally accepted that without vast amounts of help from him, in many forms, along with the insatiable enthusiasm of Vic, the club would not have survived through some of the difficult times faced in years gone by.

At the end of last year Victor was presented with the very prestigious Auto -Cycle Union Medal of Honour, an accolade marking his outstanding contribution, and years of service to the A.C.U. and to motorcycle sport in general, an honour that was richly deserved.

Certainly Victor’s energy, commitment, dedication and determination will make him sorely missed by a great many people. Victor was a true ‘gentle giant’, a ‘giant’ in every sense of the word.

Our sincere condolences go to all of Vic’s family, especially sons Jim, Martin and daughter Jackie, along with sisters Sheila, Joan and Jackie plus brother Eric.

Rest in peace Victor and thank you for your friendship and hard work.

Dave Cole – On behalf of the entire committee of the West of England Motor Club.

Trials Guru: We thank Dave Cole for allowing us to republish Vic Ashford’s obituary.